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My two cents, anyway - Svil.
 
My two cents, anyway - Svil.
 
* Undead don't have their souls, [[User:Tiphareth|Tiphareth]] ([[User talk:Tiphareth|talk]]) 01:49, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 
* Undead don't have their souls, [[User:Tiphareth|Tiphareth]] ([[User talk:Tiphareth|talk]]) 01:49, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
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**Er, Lichs do. Sort of. In a bottle, but still.--[[User:Kasyr|Kasyr]] ([[User talk:Kasyr|talk]]) 02:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
  
 
* Ah, the last one I RPed with.. I forget his name.. but the undead mage?. he RPed having a soul. I was going of that... Do vampires have souls, then? For are not vampires undead?
 
* Ah, the last one I RPed with.. I forget his name.. but the undead mage?. he RPed having a soul. I was going of that... Do vampires have souls, then? For are not vampires undead?
  
 
Upon reflection, I suppose I figure it this way: Undead that are basically mindless slaves given life by a necromancer do not have souls. Proper sentient people who are undead perhaps retain their soul, and that is why they are not just mindless creatures doing the bidding of others. If that makes sense? It would also account for why vampires keep their souls.
 
Upon reflection, I suppose I figure it this way: Undead that are basically mindless slaves given life by a necromancer do not have souls. Proper sentient people who are undead perhaps retain their soul, and that is why they are not just mindless creatures doing the bidding of others. If that makes sense? It would also account for why vampires keep their souls.
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*Also, anyone have thoughts on this: 'Rarely, a soul or group of souls may find themselves the recipient of a particular brand of 'divine intervention', that grants them further time upon the Material Plane of existance. Typically, these souls remain tethered to the primary plane of existance until a certain condition is met (such as the individual being avenged, or achieving some other goal), though it has been known to occur that a spirit is simply alloted a certain amount of time.  Interestingly enough, whilst this is typically a 'boon' of sorts to the afflicted dead, it has also been used to antagonize mortals (Dying pleas do not always reach favourable ears, after all.)'--[[User:Kasyr|Kasyr]] ([[User talk:Kasyr|talk]]) 02:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

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Alrighty, Folks. It's occured to me that there's a fairly key contradiction in the laws of physics, and one that needs to be addressed. Specifically, it's the manner in which a soul apparently dissipates if it does not go to heaven or hell. Now, this typically wouldn't be a problem, unless we take into account that ghosts exist in hollow- literally, roaming souls. Be they npcs, part of room descriptions or even (rarely) player characters...these exist as a contradiction to that particular law of physics.
Now, before I continue onwards- It should be noted that this particular 'law of physics' isn't arbitrary. In fact, it's purpose is meant to prevent people from engaging in soul eating shenanigans, or other such things.

Which leads to the simple question of, "Then what?"

While I do have my thoughts on the matter, I'd be more than appreciative were other people to chime in their thoughts on these matters.

As it currently stands- my only solution would be proposing that the souls of the dead -don't- cease to exist (Since, Well, they aren't, anyways). Rather, they continue to exist, albeit under a sort of protection from Vakmatharas. Basically, they exist in the world, up until they are exorcised from the area- either through ritual, or just having their spiritual essence disrupted somehow.

And Hell, a priest of Vakmatharas could have an 'epiphany' to this particular 'change' coming into play. (Ideally, anyways- after all, changes to the world that are done through rp, are more likely to be acknowledged, and people can explore the concepts).


Hollow is now purgatory?! :P I agree that souls shouldn't just... cease to exist when they are not claimed by Gods. Rather, like what Kasyr said, I think they should exist in a state that is rarely in contact with the physical world, or even the magical one, and only powerful necromancers (which we don't really have at the moment) would be able to, if not harness their latent energy, at least perhaps commune with them.

Hollow is very varied when it comes to how people portray their souls, and considering we have undead (which I assume still have souls after dying), it is perhaps more fitting that souls do not vanish, but rather exist in a state that is almost unexisting.

My two cents, anyway - Svil.

  • Undead don't have their souls, Tiphareth (talk) 01:49, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
    • Er, Lichs do. Sort of. In a bottle, but still.--Kasyr (talk) 02:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Ah, the last one I RPed with.. I forget his name.. but the undead mage?. he RPed having a soul. I was going of that... Do vampires have souls, then? For are not vampires undead?

Upon reflection, I suppose I figure it this way: Undead that are basically mindless slaves given life by a necromancer do not have souls. Proper sentient people who are undead perhaps retain their soul, and that is why they are not just mindless creatures doing the bidding of others. If that makes sense? It would also account for why vampires keep their souls.

  • Also, anyone have thoughts on this: 'Rarely, a soul or group of souls may find themselves the recipient of a particular brand of 'divine intervention', that grants them further time upon the Material Plane of existance. Typically, these souls remain tethered to the primary plane of existance until a certain condition is met (such as the individual being avenged, or achieving some other goal), though it has been known to occur that a spirit is simply alloted a certain amount of time. Interestingly enough, whilst this is typically a 'boon' of sorts to the afflicted dead, it has also been used to antagonize mortals (Dying pleas do not always reach favourable ears, after all.)'--Kasyr (talk) 02:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)